tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3884298032433971183.post6271453785738737584..comments2023-10-29T09:38:37.412+00:00Comments on OUFI: A stateless EgyptOUFIhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12583847779944899846noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3884298032433971183.post-50243176030180259272013-07-12T16:39:41.709+01:002013-07-12T16:39:41.709+01:00Dear Anonymous,
I am not sure who you are but you...Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />I am not sure who you are but you seem to have the capricious indulgence of moving the goal post. I am lost as to how to respond and which item to respond to; as a consequence we are not going anywhere towards the argument. <br /><br />You have included me in your general and rather dramatic sweeping statements but I don’t think I have at any time given any hint of my speculative ideas. Nor have I been dogmatic enough to encourage ideas or to substantiate speculation as facts. In the meantime, however, let me remind you that eye witnesses can differ in their subjective experiences of observed incidents. No matter how impartial they may think they are; their narratives would inevitably include culturally induced biases and or discriminatory interests. As to whether Democracy will even exist soon or in “couple hundred years” I leave that to a clairvoyant with a crystal ball in absence of an infallible source. All the same this is immaterial and a meaningless exercise to consider as these are quite sweeping statements hopelessly disguised as facts; no matter how clearly you put speculation, their clarity will not morph them into facts.<br />OUFIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12583847779944899846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3884298032433971183.post-61806217451505515602013-07-12T13:55:50.978+01:002013-07-12T13:55:50.978+01:00Well several correspondents are on site and report...Well several correspondents are on site and report the matter first hand. Its not like one part if correct and another is not. Democracy as you and I know it did not, does not and will not exist in the Middle East. Perhaps in a couple hundred years. I cannot put it more clearly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3884298032433971183.post-58511475180556768122013-07-12T11:00:01.915+01:002013-07-12T11:00:01.915+01:00Which part of my reply do you feel as just an opin...Which part of my reply do you feel as just an opinion?. Before we start to get bogged down away from the subject I am not sure whether correspondent's reports are facts but perspectives on how they see things. Each correspondent build his/her own landscape that they present to their viewers/listeners. <br />OUFIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12583847779944899846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3884298032433971183.post-77911438504208762772013-07-11T19:28:38.736+01:002013-07-11T19:28:38.736+01:00Your comments are based on a personal opinion rath...Your comments are based on a personal opinion rather than on the facts being relayed by the various respectable news channels and newspapers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3884298032433971183.post-48335578198703158402013-07-11T09:18:45.857+01:002013-07-11T09:18:45.857+01:00Dear Anonymous,
You say “The majority of those tha...Dear Anonymous,<br />You say “The majority of those that elected him did not and still do not understand what is meant by democracy” I am not so sure how you can arrive at this conclusion. What authority or reference to gives you such certainty of that being the case?<br /><br />Even if your statement is valid, I clearly say in the article, Democracy demonstrates that it is a people’s government – by the people for the people. It has the mechanism to allow reform and revision. To topple a democratic government at first sign of dissatisfaction is throwing away a whole system of government without learning from it or seeing how it can grow organically; argument and persuasion. <br /><br />Whether you can call those at high office leaders or representatives they are obliged to carry out their party’s promises. As I see it, in Egypt’s case, Moslem Brotherhood were voted into office because of what they represent- Islam, and its ideology and beliefs. Maybe because, as you insinuate above, the majority of the voting public were too ignorant to know what other policies the party were carrying, the fundamental fact remains; the voters sought the principle diktat of the party, which is the Sharia Law. Those on the outside cannot sit in judgment to the right or wrong use of a voting right but respect the vote made, prima facia, in good faith.<br /><br />You say “they were leading the country into the abyss”. I say, that is far too speculative and in the light of my argument the honeymoon allowed was far too short for any substantial benefit yet to be felt.<br />OUFIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12583847779944899846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3884298032433971183.post-39850683568790941882013-07-10T18:09:10.767+01:002013-07-10T18:09:10.767+01:00Freddie, you are stating that it was wrong to have...Freddie, you are stating that it was wrong to have removed Mursi from the presidency because he was democratically elected. That may be true but the majority of those that elected him did not and still do not understand what is meant by democracy and until such time, Egypt will remain stateless.<br /><br />Democracy is a means for the people to choose their leaders and to hold their leaders accountable for their policies and their conduct in office. I am sure you acknowledge this. Mursi and the brotherhood were held accountable because they were leading the country into the abyss and another dictatorship just like Iraq.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com